Comments on: Weight Lifting for Road Cyclists http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/ Cycling Training Tips Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:11:46 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Lowe http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-50595 Lowe Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:15:11 +0000 http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/#comment-50595 I was looking to incorporate the winter weight program with the 12 week winter training program how do you handle the lifting weights on M and Th, but also doing intervals on Th? I was looking to incorporate the winter weight program with the 12 week winter training program how do you handle the lifting weights on M and Th, but also doing intervals on Th?

]]> By: Strength Training Without Additional Body Mass - 1 http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-32359 Strength Training Without Additional Body Mass - 1 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:35:12 +0000 http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/#comment-32359 [...] makes you a better cyclist. It’s still uncertain and there is still no evidence (read more on lack of evidence on strength training for cyclists here) [...] [...] makes you a better cyclist. It’s still uncertain and there is still no evidence (read more on lack of evidence on strength training for cyclists here) [...]

]]> By: Jesper Therkildsen http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-16550 Jesper Therkildsen Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:11:42 +0000 http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/#comment-16550 JvW -> I like your comment about training in another enviroment. That is one of the main reasons I stick to strength training programs even though the scientific evidence is not impressive. JvW -> I like your comment about training in another enviroment. That is one of the main reasons I stick to strength training programs even though the scientific evidence is not impressive.

]]> By: JvW cycling sience http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-8794 JvW cycling sience Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:06:59 +0000 http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/#comment-8794 It seems studies have shown almost no difference in LT, VO2 or just power for longer times, when groupes with or without strength training are compared. But the amount of time spended by both types of groupes are usally the same. That means the strength groupe has replaced an amount of endurance- for strength training (mostly variating. from 20 to 50%). I conclude that eventhough the results are the same, the time spent on the bike is differend. It may not have a direct physical effect, but mentaly, training in a different envoirment, may have a bigger effect. Doing long miles day in day out can be very boring. Training inside on a different setting may give you a mental boost. My second conclusion is that most study´s don´t show direct increase in VO2, LT or power over longer time, the direct power over a short period of time, wich in many studies hasen´t been tested, does increase. That means you get directly more power to make a brakeaway or go up a hort (steap) hill much faster. So to end, I believe strength training does work, especially in the (not so specific) preperation time. Going to the gym 2 or 3 times a week combined with low intens endurance training is an excellent way to make a good fundation for next season. In the specific preperation or competion time strength training should be reduced to make way for specific (more intens) cycling training. Strength training in these periods should only be done to preserve the core of the body, and maybe ones a week for the legs, but not to intens though. JvW cycling sience (coach for some elite cyclist) Holland It seems studies have shown almost no difference in LT, VO2 or just power for longer times, when groupes with or without strength training are compared. But the amount of time spended by both types of groupes are usally the same. That means the strength groupe has replaced an amount of endurance- for strength training (mostly variating. from 20 to 50%).

I conclude that eventhough the results are the same, the time spent on the bike is differend. It may not have a direct physical effect, but mentaly, training in a different envoirment, may have a bigger effect. Doing long miles day in day out can be very boring. Training inside on a different setting may give you a mental boost.
My second conclusion is that most study´s don´t show direct increase in VO2, LT or power over longer time, the direct power over a short period of time, wich in many studies hasen´t been tested, does increase. That means you get directly more power to make a brakeaway or go up a hort (steap) hill much faster.

So to end, I believe strength training does work, especially in the (not so specific) preperation time. Going to the gym 2 or 3 times a week combined with low intens endurance training is an excellent way to make a good fundation for next season. In the specific preperation or competion time strength training should be reduced to make way for specific (more intens) cycling training. Strength training in these periods should only be done to preserve the core of the body, and maybe ones a week for the legs, but not to intens though.

JvW cycling sience (coach for some elite cyclist)
Holland

]]> By: Andy http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/comment-page-1/#comment-5586 Andy Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:41:13 +0000 http://www.training4cyclists.com/weight-lifting-for-road-cyclists/#comment-5586 As you mentioned, a lot of time and money is spent researching aerodynamics, cycle geometry, etc etc. Some of this research showed a couple of interesting things to me that in a round-abouts way support a trained upper body, a good example is the differences in bars between triathlon/tt bikes and standard road/race bikes. Aero bars on triathlon bikes support some upper body weight through the elbows meaning less energy is expended, it would make sense that specific kinds of upper body weight training to make weight-supporting upper body muscles more efficient would pay a small dividend in a race...as previously mentioned it logically couldn't be more than a percent, or a fraction of a percent, but everything counts right? As you mentioned, a lot of time and money is spent researching aerodynamics, cycle geometry, etc etc. Some of this research showed a couple of interesting things to me that in a round-abouts way support a trained upper body, a good example is the differences in bars between triathlon/tt bikes and standard road/race bikes. Aero bars on triathlon bikes support some upper body weight through the elbows meaning less energy is expended, it would make sense that specific kinds of upper body weight training to make weight-supporting upper body muscles more efficient would pay a small dividend in a race…as previously mentioned it logically couldn’t be more than a percent, or a fraction of a percent, but everything counts right?

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